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CARRE OFFICIERS MARINIERS [2 records]
Record 1 - internal organization data 2017-10-25
Record 1, English
Record 1, Subject field(s)
- Ship and Boat Parts
- Food Services (Military)
Record 1, Main entry term, English
- chiefs and petty officers' mess
1, record 1, English, chiefs%20and%20petty%20officers%27%20mess
correct, generic
Record 1, Abbreviations, English
Record 1, Synonyms, English
- C&POs mess 1, record 1, English, C%26POs%20mess
correct, generic
Record 1, Textual support, English
Record number: 1, Textual support number: 1 DEF
An establishment, either on shore or on a ship, where chiefs and petty officers meet, socialize and take their meals. 2, record 1, English, - chiefs%20and%20petty%20officers%27%20mess
Record 1, French
Record 1, Domaine(s)
- Parties des bateaux
- Alimentation (Militaire)
Record 1, Main entry term, French
- carré des officiers mariniers
1, record 1, French, carr%C3%A9%20des%20officiers%20mariniers
correct, masculine noun, specific
Record 1, Abbreviations, French
Record 1, Synonyms, French
Record 1, Textual support, French
Record number: 1, Textual support number: 1 DEF
Salle commune d’un navire servant de salon et de salle à manger aux officiers mariniers. 2, record 1, French, - carr%C3%A9%20des%20officiers%20mariniers
Record number: 1, Textual support number: 1 OBS
En français, on distingue le «mess des officiers mariniers» du «carré des officiers mariniers», ce dernier désigne une salle sur un navire. 2, record 1, French, - carr%C3%A9%20des%20officiers%20mariniers
Record 1, Spanish
Record 1, Textual support, Spanish
Record 2 - internal organization data 2009-01-12
Record 2, English
Record 2, Subject field(s)
- Ceremonial and Traditions (Military)
- Food Services (Military)
Record 2, Main entry term, English
- combined mess
1, record 2, English, combined%20mess
correct
Record 2, Abbreviations, English
Record 2, Synonyms, English
- consolidated mess 2, record 2, English, consolidated%20mess
correct, see observation, United States
Record 2, Textual support, English
Record number: 2, Textual support number: 1 DEF
A mess that most often combines the officers' mess (known as the wardroom onboard a Navy ship) with the sergeants and warrant officers' mess (chiefs and petty officers' mess in the Navy) or sometimes, that combines the sergeants and warrant officers' mess (chiefs and petty officers' mess in the Navy) with the junior ranks mess (master seamen and below mess in the Navy). 3, record 2, English, - combined%20mess
Record number: 2, Textual support number: 1 OBS
The term "combined mess" should not be confused with the term "all-ranks mess". 3, record 2, English, - combined%20mess
Record number: 2, Textual support number: 2 OBS
The term "consolidated mess" seems to be more widespread in the United States than it is in Canada. 3, record 2, English, - combined%20mess
Record number: 2, Textual support number: 3 OBS
Ideally, a military base should have three messes: the officers' mess (known as the wardroom onboard a Navy ship), the sergeants and warrant officers' mess (chiefs and petty officers' mess in the Navy) and the junior ranks mess (master seamen and below mess in the Navy). However, in the case of smaller military bases, there might be a need to form a combined mess, or, in smaller military facilities still, the need to form an all-ranks mess, due to the insufficient number of military personnel to justify separate messes. 3, record 2, English, - combined%20mess
Record 2, French
Record 2, Domaine(s)
- Cérémonial et traditions (Militaire)
- Alimentation (Militaire)
Record 2, Main entry term, French
- mess commun
1, record 2, French, mess%20commun
correct, masculine noun
Record 2, Abbreviations, French
Record 2, Synonyms, French
- mess combiné 2, record 2, French, mess%20combin%C3%A9
correct, masculine noun, less frequent
Record 2, Textual support, French
Record number: 2, Textual support number: 1 DEF
Mess qui regroupe la plupart du temps le mess des officiers(appelé «carré des officiers» à bord d’un navire dans la Marine) et le mess des sergents et des adjudants(mess des officiers mariniers dans la Marine) ou parfois, le mess des sergents et des adjudants(mess des officiers mariniers dans la Marine) et le mess des caporaux et des soldats(mess des matelots-chefs et des matelots dans la Marine). 3, record 2, French, - mess%20commun
Record number: 2, Textual support number: 1 OBS
Il ne faut pas confondre le terme «mess commun» avec le terme «mess intégré». 3, record 2, French, - mess%20commun
Record number: 2, Textual support number: 2 OBS
Une base militaire devrait idéalement comporter trois mess : le mess des officiers(appelé «carré des officiers» à bord d’un navire dans la Marine), le mess des sergents et des adjudants(mess des officiers mariniers dans la Marine) et le mess des caporaux et des soldats(mess des matelots-chefs et des matelots dans la Marine). Toutefois, en ce qui concerne une base militaire plus petite, il pourrait être nécessaire d’implanter un mess commun ou s’il s’agit d’une installation militaire de taille encore plus réduite, il faudra peut-être fonder un mess intégré, compte tenu du nombre insuffisant de militaires pour justifier l'existence de mess distincts. 3, record 2, French, - mess%20commun
Record 2, Spanish
Record 2, Textual support, Spanish
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